I cant believe that for the past 16 days Ive been relapsing on and off instead of continuing.
I have no urges or cravings to do it, in fact I find it kind of repulsive.
These ones arent even relapses, but they do take away my sexual energy the little I have, and put me in debt.
I cant go on without support. I really need help and advice from you guys and Marnia here.
I hate doing it but while doing it I just cant put it away.
I really want to let it go once and for all and go all the way to 60 days, even 10 days is fine, but I keep self-sabotaging myself.
Im on the borderline on jumping off a bridge I swear I cant handle doing this anymore. Too many times do I break my own word and trust.
Marnia, Gary, and everyone else, please be here to help me get through to day 20. Ive never gone that far besides from Jan 1 to 21.
What a fool and Idiot i was, to think I could have already been on day 35.
FML
Go easy on yourself. This
Go easy on yourself. This process takes time and a lot of failures. You got to focus on what you have achieved instead of what you could have achieved. If you really want to get through week 1 and 2, you can do the following:
Stop watching TV
Before using your computer: write down what you need to do and then when you're done, turn of the computer immediately.
Pick a person to talk to everyday
Try to avoid being 'idle' and not doing anything
Have a positive outlook on this process, it'll help.
Thanks for your input. Its
Thanks for your input. Its frustrating to be doing this and I actually went on an anger/fury trip which Ive never really gone and had before.
I dont watch Tv, I do watch Netflix at night time and its just one show, but it has such an escapist effect, that when I return to reality, I struggle for hours to days just trying to make the everyday normality outside with guys/girls rather than watching a show and being engulfed in it. Shows are much easier anyway as everything is great and happens so fast. And its a cartoon its not even a show.
I dont use the computer neither. So Im just at idle time with no car to go out anywhere.
The main thing is to keep going and increase my stamina/sex energy/willpower along the way.
100 days is my projected cure. 100 days. If I cant even come into this world and live 100 days free from evil(which by the way is a good thing), then I deserve to cease to exist.
Please do not
cease to exist. Believe me, your creator is helping you learn some really important things about managing your brain and appetites. And some really important things about self-compassion and easing up on the black-and-white thinking. Someday, you'll be proud to share your insights with others. Just give your creator a little time and be gentle with yourself.
Addiction is frustrating for every addict. Why should you be different?? The things that help most are daily exercise, daily prayer/meditation, friendly contact with others, caring touch (can you get a therapeutic massage?), time in nature...and all the things here: ♦Solo Tools Pray for guidance about which ones to try, or ask Uncle Bob: http://yourbrainonporn.com/uncle-bob-porn-addiction-recovery-tips
Blog daily for a while, so we can support you.
*big hug*
Dave, I'll just say that your
Dave, I'll just say that your thought patterns are not that different to mine, especially the days after a relapse. I know it's of little consolation, but you're not alone in thinking this way.
Whenever I've relapsed, it's usually hasn't been a "quick slip", so to speak - it's been one relapse, and then another one follows soon after, then another, etc. - until I manage to shake myself out of that phase. It seems that you're experienced a similar effect.
And the thoughts and emotions: the really low mood, depression, worthlessness; it's all caused by the reboot. If you can just isolate that feeling, and recognise WHY it is you are feeling bad, it may make the emotions a little less potent.
The thinking that "damn I could have been on day 35" isn't alien to me either. But the important thing is to be able to move on; recognise that you achieved a good run of almost three weeks, reset the timer, and start counting again. The sooner you move away from thinking of what could have been, the sooner you'll be in a frame of mind to reach and push past your pb.
On to the positive thing about your reboot: it seems you only recently reached 20 days, which is an awesome achievement. I will say that, with my first real run was 21 days; then I relapsed, struggled for a month of short runs and frequent slips, and then managed to push on to around 40ish days. My point is though not to compare yourself with me, even though we are in similar places, as rebooting has to be a personal thing, comparing only against yourself (the only way to truly reboot, IMO). It's that if you keep on trying, keep on pushing on and clocking up days as soon as you can after a relapse, you WILL succeed. Churchill sums it up perfectly: success is going from disappointment to disappointment, failure to failure, with no loss of enthusiam.
I've found that one of the best things that I've done is to remove my computer, games, everything - when there's little tempation, it's difficult to be tempted; and even better, I started to find (or rediscover) interesting things to do that didn't involve a screen. Maybe that's not an option for you, but I know you'll sort it out somehow :)
Thanks buddy Ill keep in mind
Thanks buddy Ill keep in mind.
Day 3 today and I feel really
Day 3 today and I feel really good(taking 5htp and L-Tyrosine once a while), went to a friends house, and let me say, whatever sexiness you have, if you smoke a cigarette, you really just mess yourself up.
Cigarettes hinder effort exclusively. They're very bad for recoverees.
In general, any artifical boost or high like cigarettes are bad, but cigarettes just destroy. Maybe smoking one might do nothing, but if youve ever seen chronic smokers youll see what I mean about taking away sexiness or looks.
It left me in a downward spiral after the 1st one, plus my friend is an old one and he gets boring fast and doesnt wanna do anything.
Sexually, Im still flatlining really.
be careful with the
be careful with the cigarettes and also with 5htp and the Tyrosine.
They are all dopamine producing things...
Stop them
I stopped 5HTP because its
I stopped 5HTP because its far too happy(which is a good thing), but it makes it impossible to feel anything, makes the senses better yet not focused, and its just too spacey.
Tyrosine is good, effective, and helps replenish dopamine, I dont see why it should not be used. Eating also releases dopamine so does looking at screens, which I avoid.
Glad you're
rolling Dave!
Im afraid not. I just
Im afraid not. I just relapsed three times. Then it just dawned on me that Ive entered the same cycle, I still havent gotten over it.
It was New Years day where I completely stopped MO, of course Id look at some pics up until the 5th of Jan, where i completely went all the way down in order to completely quit.
I went and made it to Friday the 20th, and M to very light Od. No fantasies, then again on the 21st, then on the 22rd, until I finally PMOd on the 24th and 25th. Then 27, then 31, then the 2nd, 6th was no P but MO, now on the11th, three times.
So 11 emissions ever since the 20th, today would have been day 20 if not for PMO.
College begins Monday, when it does, Im not gonna PMO again. Ive seen it all, Im no longer thrilled by P and find no real joy in it, its a bunch of bullcrap.
Thank God these PMO sessions have been very light, but Im disgusted that right before college I had to undergo this neurochemical shift. Even 1 PMO for 5 minutes gave me 2 days of on and off.
I just have to get through to Friday, Im so weak when alone, its like I cant escape the clutches of a cheap, dirty high.
All through it I was flatlining too.
Im on day 1 again. My goal is to make it to day 20 again, once I make it there, Ill be feeling ready again to move on. Cant wait.
And again Marnia, I have f*****d up. Please dont forsake me, it gets easier to quit each time. I know I can do it this time, but something feels off and Im looking into it.
The first time I reached day 20 I had made a strong case against PMO that helped me get rid of it. I need another case to abandon it forever and go out into the real world.
Honestly,
you're doing just fine. Seriously. For some people, slowing things down gradually works best. For others, it just takes them deeper into the spiral.
You're wise to keep going with what works for you. Am I right that you are watching more "vanilla" material, for shorter sessions, when you relapse? Sounds like your brain is gradually becoming more sensitive. That's excellent.
Try adding a day to each cycle when you're ready.
And please be gentle with yourself.
*big hug*