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Greetings,
It's Frank, after a long time. In case you're wondering, I've been away from the forums for quite a long time now. I've learnt a lot more on sexual addiction and, like so many times in my life before, I feel that I have a broader perspective now ("I was so dumb before!") and I am endeavouring to gain self-control now in a more holistic way (incorporating many different themes, although not really getting into actual spiritual practice because I am not in contact with any guru).
I wanted to ask a question here for everybody to answer. As most addicts know, being sexually addicted distorts one's view of females and sexuality in general. In fact, there have been so many instances, that I was so steeply into addiction that I would literally "sexualise" in my mind almost every woman I'd see (i.e., view women as in checking them out, noticing their sexual aspects, viewing them as "sex objects"), sometimes even regardless their age (some women were really my aunts and cousin sisters). I suppose that this is because of the concentration of a lot of energy in the sexual centre of the body (now, I'm not familiar with tantra/chakras at all, so I have to suffice with my own terminology), the mind focusses on all things sexual.
The mistake I made was that I could not be attracted to females in a nonsexual way! (and so I couldn't differentiate between healthy attraction -- the pure kind of attraction -- and the sexual kind of attraction) I mean, even now I strive to have those moments where I can look at a woman and be attracted as would a son to his mother. The idea to "view all women as mothers and sisters" is a little weird to me, that's not exactly a solution, it's more like an escape. Even in romance, where supposedly sex is so important, there is a point of view or frame of mind from which one's wife can be viewed in a dignified way, not as a "sex object". There was no other aspect of females that I could be attracted to, being a sexual addict. It was really awful. Even now I cannot achieve that pure state of mind.
What I want to ask you is: how do I cultivate that pure mentality? I want to look at women with purity. Of course, these days in media you find a lot of sexualisation, of both males and females. One perspective I took was to first observe how I view other men (I'm not homosexual) and then to relate that to how girls would look at other girls, and to somehow mould my mind to look at other girls (any age, no matter how sexy) in a normal way, instead of the look based on lust. I've tried looking at some pictures of Greek/Celtic/Hindu goddesses, but some of them really somehow arouse me, I'm ashamed to say.
Learning how to look at women in a sacred way is not exactly a major step in sexual addiction (at least not acknowledged by the mainstream media), because it still leaves the seed of addiction, the lust, within. But still, I really want to cultivate it, I feel like a loser if I look at women in a sexual way, it is so ugly to be like that.
Cheers,
Frank
Welcome back, Frank!
Great goal!
Why not start by signing up to be a Courtly Companion? This is a program we started just recently. It gives you an anonymous "sister" to relate to in just the way that you're trying to achieve. You can read more here, and sign up in your Account (look around for the "Courtly Companion" link under "Edit").
http://www.reuniting.info/node/1125
It may take me a while to find you one, as the ladies at the site tend to be a bit more reticent than the gentlemen. (Thanks, guys!)
Relating to a real female, whom you can't even see
should be a good approach for you.
I know that for me, the realization that I could actually help men (brighten their days, make them feel better about themselves) by connecting with them *without* turning on my "seduction suction" is what helped me to shift. Maybe you don't value enough the gifts you have as a male. Think of yourself as sacred Shiva energy, which you can share with all the Shaktis in your life just by smiling at them. See if you can get them to smile back. This could also give you something to do other than undressing them.
Good Reading
I gained a lot by reading books by David Deida. "The Way of the Superior Man" is a good read. To be able to see woman as the oposite polarity of the divine, not as sex symbols from which we can "get" sex. He is into exploring womans orgasm which may run contrary to the theme of this site, but he writes some lovely stuff in describing woman. He also has a book called "Dear Lover" which is intended for women, but as a man has helped me have some kind of appreciation of the divine being that lies at the core of every woman.
I don't know if I can be of
I don't know if I can be of much assistance, but I will try. I found that with the women I know in person that I fantasize about (most of them are women I don't know, almost always celebrities), I tend to differentiate between the two. A lot of them, though, I have known previously and no longer have a relationship with. My mind has always sort of blocked off women I know well enough, as if they are sacred and not something to touch. What was even more wierd, now that I think about it, was the women I don't like I had stronger reactions to and fantasies involving. I think that will be worth investigating in the blog next.
I think Marina is right in that you really need to sit and have a solid conversation with a woman. Try something simple: do it with someone you would not be attracted to. I found that once I knew them at least well enough to call a woman an acquaintence, then I would not have fantasies. If they were attractive and my relationship weakened, though, that's when it happened. I'm not sure what I said was at all helpful, but I wish you well and hope I was of some assistance.