Suggestion about explicit content

Mitsiky's picture

Hi everyone.

I've had this at the back of my mind for a while, but Lancer's recent departure convinced me that I should post about it.

It comes to my attention that for obvious reasons, posts on this website often contain content of an explicit nature. However, we should also note that this site is frequented by people recovering from sex/porn addiction. Some things that get posted here could be triggering to them. I know *I* have been uncomfortably triggered occasionally.

Therefore, in due sensitivity, I have two suggestions. First, before posting, try to check the tone of what you wrote. Even if being explicit is necessary, you can try to at least avoid being pornographic when possible.

Second, if you find that what you are posting might be triggering to some people, you can include "trigger warning" in the subject line of your post. Then, people who wish to can avoid reading it.

I invite comments or criticisms about these suggestions.

hotspring's picture

Thank you

Thank you for raising this topic. I just had a very vivid and explicit dream. The subject matter seemed very fitting for this site. Then it dawned on me that it's really pretty absurd to be posting such thing online. But the content of the dream was so intense it would also seem strange not to tell it.

What are these stories we tell?

Marnia's picture

Can anyone give me links to posts

that cause discomfort? I've been talking about this stuff for so long that I'm getting too relaxed to see the issue perhaps.

In any case, Lancer told me months ago that he would be leaving soon for various reasons, so I'm not sure the reason he gave was his only one. Even so, I'm happy to address your concerns Mitsiky, but I'm not sure of the best way.

Ideally, I would like this site to be a safe place to talk about anything, as long as the goal is not titillation, but rather healing or greater understanding.

Triggering

Sex is such a loaded subject, with a strong emotional, gut-level component to it, it's hard to discuss it anywhere without making some waves.
I think we've done better than most on this site to discuss this charged topic with openness and sensitivity.
I am not a recovering porn or masturbation addict, but I have not ever been offended, triggered or titillated by anything posted here.
Having said that, I have to applaud Lancer for understanding his own process well enough to know where his boundaries are, and to take care of himself around them.
Cariad

WilliamC's picture

Your Title - **** Possibly Triggering Content ****

Here is my suggestion for a possible way to handle the triggering content problem. Another idea is for the Janitor and Marnia to have two places that are specifically designed for Possible Triggering Content; one in the Forum Content and one in the Blog Post Content.

I think this issue is one that should be addressed BEFORE next June when the new version of the book is release and our traffic is going to be much busier.

Respectful disagreement

I respectfully disagree.
My brain is bendy and complicated enough to sort out....how on earth am I supposed to know what is going to trigger you or anyone else? I mean, if you're into fetishes, a mention of my new red shoes might do it.
Speaking ONLY for myself, I think we have to trust each other here. I am willing to take the risk of reading or even posting something that might make someone else or me a bit uncomfortable....I've done that already, and it has been a huge learning experience I am grateful for. If I read something here that tweaked me, or that I felt odd about, I'd be willing to look at it more closely and see why, see if I could learn something.
If we are too careful, we run the risk of missing the grand benefits of this sanctuary Marnia and the rest of us have created. I, for one, don't want to do that.
And, thank you Ms. M, for opening the dialogue. I wouldn't have wanted to miss that, either.
C

CuriousFellow's picture

What Cariad said...

I agree with Cariad completely. Maybe if those who feel "triggered" would let the rest of us know what it was that set them off, then the rest of us could be a little more careful, but otherwise, I think it's too much to ask that we censor ourselves or plaster "possibly triggering content" on every post that could possibly be triggering to anyone that might visit this site. And we're all reasonably intelligent adults here... I think we can reasonably guess that a post titled "Dream" on this site might be an erotic dream, and could avoid it if it might be triggering - so I don't think it was necessary to put warnings in that post.

Now I wonder if I'll be able to get any sleep tonight, thinking about those red shoes...

Frank's picture

I guess I have posted enough

I guess I have posted enough suspicious content that I need to relabel. Of course, some of the articles on the site which had some pictures of couples embracing (yeah, even cartoonish/anime ones) had me aroused (since I first wasn't expecting any such "explicit" content on the site; if I'm expecting it I'm better able to handle it)

But in terms of marking something as explicit or not, there's really no tangible boundary we can draw. I mean, even talking of something like "breast cancer" can arouse some people (yes, I'm one of them too), although it's something very serious. So if we really want to draw such a boundary of arousing versus safe, then we're going to have to rethink changing the headers of Reuniting pages too ("sexual relationships" can get people like me wandering into fantasies unless they're not fully conscious of what they're reading).

Besides, I think that such "explicit" content is something we all have to get used to. If you just observe a street of any major city of any democracy (even "backward" places like India), you'll see enough triggering stuff. How are you going to avoid that? By looking down at your toes and walking away trying to avoid it? I've tried that and let me tell you it's not very comfortable doing that. Eventually now I've just come to accept that such things are going to be around for a much longer time from now, and I'm going to have to control my own self against it.

Of course, this doesn't mean we start hosting pictures of nude models up here. It just means that if it's a part of healthy discussion here, we shouldn't bother too much about whether it will trigger a few people or not.

Frank's picture

I think Lancer's decision is

I think Lancer's decision is perfectly fine. In fact, I remember that about two months ago I'd just switched off the Display Images option in my web browser and then began reading the articles on Reuniting. There's nothing wrong with the Reuniting site and its articles, but again, because of my own perverse tendencies and limitations I had to take such a decision. That's what I do anyway when I'm on some suspicious download website (torrents etc.).

Mitsiky's picture

Huh

Well, I don't actually have any strong feelings about it, but I thought it was worth discussing anyway.

Marnia's picture

Very worthwhile discussing it

I admit I could be a bit more careful in my pics, but I am always choosing them as illustrations...sometimes of the weird stuff that passes for mainstream these days.

Also, I use them as a signal that "Reuniting" is not some extreme, religious site. We talk about sex, and we're trying to find out how to use it for a higher end. I take my cue from Noyes, Stockham and Lloyd, all of whom where refreshingly candid in their discussions...even though they were far more under the cloud of sexual repression than we are.

I think Frank's right, in any case. Eventually, the solution lies in us. We can get so centered due to careful management of sexual energy that we know what to avoid, or else see it with detachment.