The Power of Visualization (Getting Rid of The Addiction.. Gently.)

Well.. here we go again. Relapsed. No excuse fellas, no excuse at all. Yes, it's a stressful period allright.. which doesn't help. So yes, I had another orgasm, and I could barely recognize myself while I was doing the thing. I was sweating, my breathing was shallow.. damn, I was more like an animal. Such is the power of orgasm addiction. The third/fourth day is always the most difficult.

I wish I could run an examination on my brain to see the chemicals feasting up there.

Anyway, I learned another trigger and understood a couple of interesting things. Allow me some ranting.

Thoughts precede actions. Well, duh. Ok, To be more precise, visual thoughts of future actions give the conscious mind a goal to pursue. At least, that's how it works for me - I do realize that some people may have different triggers, such smells or sounds or a combination. For me, it's mostly visual.

If an image of a woman pops out inside my mind and I focus on it, the normal course of action is to have an orgasm, because that's my conditioning.

So I made an experiment. I purposely opened a porn movie on a x-tube site, and waited until I got mildly aroused. Then I rapidly substituted the mental image with a neutral movie - myself configuring a computer modem. I concentrated as much as possible, actually imagining the single actions, and feeling my arms touching the cables, typing into the keyboard, and so on.

It worked. Within 10 seconds I lost the erection, and the image was gone. In short, I was able to influence my body by diverting my thoughts in a controlled way towards a neutral image. There was no "willpower" involved - just the initial intention. I worked with the natural processes of my brain, not against them.

I did it almost 10 times this day, and it always worked. I may as well be onto something here, because the 3-4 hours after an orgasm have always been terrible so far.

I must also say that I kept myself occupied with writing and planning some projects. But the technique was useful whenever my mind drifted.

Right now I feel like I am doing two steps forwards and one step back, but that's progress anyway!

Square One.. again. Oh, well.

Day 2

This is the second day, and it went definitely better than I expected.

Of course, I had my series of triggers and some of them were.. let's say, sticky (no pun intended). You know, the kind of images that stick into your mind and gradually hijack it until it's too late. But this time I knew better - and I neutralized them all by actively thinking something else. That doesn't work just on porn!

In my case, I find more beneficial to think about movies and not still pictures. I would see myself doing something - talking to people, approaching women, building stuff, and such.

The key is to remain focused on the movie for at least 20 seconds, until your attention shifts totally to it and you are in the present moment - which is exactly what you feel when you are watching a movie.

Of course it wasn't always a smooth ride. Often the pictures kept intruding, literally interspersing themselves between the frames of my mental movie.

I feel that this is normal. My mind is resisting because it is still wired to the old behaviors. What the heck are you visualizing? I want some booty!

When that happens, I simply ignore them and focus on bodily feelings - for example, if I am visualizing a mental movie where I am talking to a woman, I shift my internal perception from third person to first person view (I see stuff through my eyes) and do something like touching her on her arm, at the same time paying attention to the feeling of her smooth skin, the warmth of her body and the pressure on my fingers. I also throw in some audio.

This always worked. My next step is to make the visualizations actually constructive and not only neutral.

For example, I could visualize possible outcomes for some situations, so that I will not be unprepared when I encounter them. Or mentally explore some business ideas. Or visualize myself being more sociable, meeting women and such, while at the same time devising a plan to actually transpose that into reality.

Overall, this seems to work pretty well. Of course, we are still on Day 2 so it's too soon to judge the long-term effectiveness, but the prospects appear to be encouraging.

Day 3

Strange day, difficult to define. I had an orgasm in my sleep, so intense that I actually woke up. Does that count? I mean, I didn't masturbate. I didn't looked at porn. It didn't happen by my own volition, but I discharged nonetheless. It rarely, if ever, happened. At least I don't remember.

In any case, I would consider this day a success or at least neutral, since I was able to fight every image popping up in my mind consciously and successfully.

What do you think?

Day 5

Apparently, things are going much better than I expected. The last 2 days went supersmoothly - I had the occasional porn image/movie popping inside my mind, but it was rapidly replaced by substitute images. In 5 days I learned a lot about myself and about this approach. I already wrote this in a comment in another thread, Marnia asked me to copy it here as well.

First of all, it's easy to fall into passivity. It's like going from a pool of quicksand to a rut. Better than before, but you are still not going anywhere. The presupposition was that the brain follows what it pictures, so if you picture a porn image, the associated behavioral response is chocking the chicken. But the point is: if you neutralize the porn image.. what are you going to do? Staring at walls? Neutral images elicit neutral responses.

In fact, for a while, I simply steered my behaviors toward a filler behavior. I watched YouTube Videos, navigated the web, read novels, and stuff like that. Pure passivity. Better than masturbation but still, my life wasn't going anywhere.

So, doing an activity is paramount. However, the activity should be something requiring concentration. It won't work with routine stuff because your mind wanders while you perform repetitive and well-known tasks, and you would think about smut, sooner or later.

A lot of people talk about meditation. My 2 cents, coming from experience, is that meditation works only if you are already very well grounded. If you are not, your mind may wander anyway. Usually meditation entails picturing stuff inside your mind, and some of that stuff may elicit porn images. The more addicted you are, the riskier. You never know what you brain associates inside - an innocent picture of a dog may remind you of "doggy style", which reminds of the obvious sexual position, which elicits a picture in your mind, which elicits an arousal response. Not good.

I found very beneficial doing an activity which keeps me in the present moment and avoids daydreaming and internal chit-chat. Works for me. I usually draw, write, play chess, program and stuff like that. Internal dialogue may be neutralized with music.

These activities are still not strictly productive (at least not in the modern economical sense), but I consider them transitory. As soon as I figure out some kind of long-term life project, all my brain will go into that. And during my free time, I will hopefully Karezzing someone. smiley

Day 7

Back to Day One? Probably. Let me explain. Just for the sake of experimentation, I decided to scale my visualization experiments and see if I could remain calm and still while watching a porn movie. I was optimist since 7 days passed smoothly.

Well, it was a quite strange experience. My body kept still, my hands were still, my mind was fairly clear. However, the influx of images was too much I guess, and they started intruding in my mental movies. After a while, I got an erection. I totally ignored that, continued to keep my body still, and my hands in a relaxed position. The pulsing sensation in my lower parts continued and escalated for some minutes. After a while, for the first time in my life, I got an orgasm without touching myself at all. And it was a non-ejaculatory orgasm as well. I just got the sensation, which even stronger than I remembered, but no fluids.

I really don't know what to think. First of all, I made the mistake of getting too cocksure (no pun intended smiley) just after 7 days of success. I guess my mind wasn't yet clear enough to sustain that, actually the very opposite - so much that he didn't even need manual stimulation to orgasm!

But it was a great learning experience as well! The visualizations kept my mind clear, and gave me control over my body. I mean, a porn movie going, an erection, throbbing sensations.. and still, I managed to keep my body still and my mind distracted. What was happening was mostly background stuff.

There was a reason for my experiment. The reason is that I don't want to be scared by porn, or by erotic images, because we live in a society where they are most prominent - and I suspect that with even faster connections, cheap computers, permanently-connected cellphones, and especially the new generations growing up considering all this stuff normal and desiderable the trend will only escalate, and most certainly not subside. Some social scientists even argue that public sex will become common and eventually accepted just like kissing. Can you imagine that?

And on a smaller scale, when you get together with your buddies and got an internet connection around, it's almost customary that at some point of the night someone will have the great idea to watch some online porn, followed by witty fratire commentary. I want to be able to handle that. I don't want to hide my head under the sand like an ostrich and become a buzz killer, so to speak.

So, that's it. My updated approach is more or less the same, but this time I won't make any experiments of sort and avoid porn completely for at least one month. I am not stable enough yet.

Comments

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But I have to ask, are you looking a porn each time before you shift your attention? Just curious.

mean every single time? No, I just did it the first time as a test. I am not that brave [bigsmile]

Then I simply shifted the attention from the images popping inside my mind. Even an innocent word read in a newspaper can trigger that stuff, depending on the context. Eventually my brain will understand and do that without conscious effort.. I hope.

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"The Mind and the Brain" by Schwartz, you're doing *exactly* what you need to do to rewire. Results take weeks, but of course it should get easier even during that time.

I'm glad you're "not that brave." smiley

I belive you are sharing a very importent insight here Jkasali - that imagination is way more powerful than willpower, affirmations and such methods in changing our behavior.

Thanks for sharing this experience and insight

that you found my insights helpful. Affirmations never worked for me. Some people swear they work, but I suspect that they use visualization, consciously or unconsciously, while they say them.

I think that most of our actions (and INactions - as in fears and phobias) depend on internal triggers (even actions caused by external cues), which are very often visual (internal movie or image). If we can get control of that, we can modify the behaviors.. or at least nullify them, as I am doing right now.

By the way, I am on the middle of Day 2 and used the technique lots of times.. always worked like a charm!

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your experience with your rewiring. If you don't mind, keep it all on this thread, so it will be easy to share the full picture with others.

Marnia. I will simply update the post as days pass.

in the last few days that exercise where if alluring images come into mind, you 'make them ugly' through visualization. I read this on another post, I think it was yours Jk. Anyway it's not fun but it works. It really is about 'taking back our power'. Rather than allowing the mind's imagery and fantasy to be directed by the primitive brain alone, we are consciously directing these images. I turn them black, shrink them, make them very ancient and hag-like...(ladies would of course do this to a handsome man). I get very creative with the images of repulsiveness. I think we are on to something here. Like you said Jk this method bypasses 'will' and all that struggle, it's more like self-reprogramming.

to hear about your success, Asher! smiley That's great. You found a twist that works for you.

I like the presupposition that my addiction has a positive intention behind, and that my unconscious mind is simply running a software which worked for a while (to protect me from connecting to other human beings, for example) but it is now outdated.

It's like having a conversation with your own unconscious mind, speaking through imagery and symbolism. Willpower it's like shouting so hard that he hardly understands what you are saying.

I feel bored/depressed/sad/whatever, and my unsconscious mind goes "Oh, do you feel like this? Here, this stuff so far always lifted your spirits.. (and there goes some porn)". Only this time, I say "Gee.. thanks a lot, but actually I don't want that anymore. That's what I want (and there goes my consciously generated picture). "

With time, I hope he will understand what I am up to and change my behaviors automagically.

Keep us posted!

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I'm really hoping this proves a useful tool for all of you.

I think that visualization techniques are *the* key. I was never interested in porn, but I was a very prolific fantasizer. Same result...orgasm. I fought the images in my early days of giving up orgasm by playing a video game in my head, literally doing battle with my seductive imagery--I even used weapons.

I remember an earlier discussion on this site that ended in an argument, having to do with the technique of making the fanatasized imagery's heads explode, or something like that, or maybe it was strangling them. It seemed sexist and misogynistic, and I definitely would hate to have to endure even one more dramatisation of those themes. But this is a psychic battle with one's own brain, the imagery really isn't a real live human, it's a seductive thought pattern, and it needs to be disempowered. Up with real people, down with virtual reality implants! smiley
-G

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Thanks for updating your blog so faithfully. I think it's great. I just shared a link to it with a psychiatrist who is thinking of working with a population suffering from porn addiction. I'll keep you posted!

I really, really appreciate your kind words. My pleasure. smiley

I am extremely happy to know that my thoughts may help other people as well. Thanks for your dedication.

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you're determined not to get "crazy" about the subject of porn as part of your recovery. Makes a lot of sense to me.

However, I will just point out that you may want to put off such temptations for about six weeks if you *really* want to test yourself. There is a protein called DeltaFsB that lurks in the brains of addicts for about that long. To cause a relapse, scientists just inject delta FosB into an animal's brain...just to show you how potent it is. Here's what psychiatrist Norman Doidge writes about it:

Delta FosB accumulates until it throws a genetic switch, affecting which genes are turned on or off. Flipping this switch causes changes that persist long after the drug is stopped, leading to irreversible damage to the brain’s dopamine system and rendering the animal far more prone to addiction. Nondrug addictions…also lead to the accumulation of deltaFosB and the same permanent changes in the dopamine system.

Doidge also explains that sensitization leads to increased wanting. It is the accumulation of deltaFosB, caused by exposure to an addictive substance or activity, that leads to sensitization. Porn is more exciting than satisfying. Exciting relates to dopamine and anticipation. It raises our tension level. Pornography hyperactivates the appetitive system.

Not sure which changes are permanent...although addicts do react to cues related to their addictions quite strongly years later sometimes. The study Gary saw said 1-2 months for lingering deltaFosB. It was observed in mice addicted to exercise, too, which means it's not just seen in connection with addictive *substances*- as Doidge points out.

The point is...until it clears out, you won't know much about your true reactions. And you may *always* be unusually sensitive to some cues.

On the other hand, you may soon have new friends. Enjoy your class!

Thanks for the information Marnia, that puts things in perspective. I guess I will wait 2 months to be on the safe side. Phew, that will be an interesting ride. smiley

Oh and sure.. hopefully, with the support of some friends it will be easier. smiley

Heck, any time I learn something new, I consider it an accomplishment. I thought I had gotten my sexual apparatus to do everything it was possible to do, but you've come up with something I haven't accomplished while awake - having an orgasm without ejaculation, and without (I assume, since you didn't mention it) clenching any muscles to prevent ejaculation.

So, congratulations on that discovery! I'm a bit envious! smiley

(It looks like Rivercurrents had a similar experience: http://www.reuniting.info/node/1324)

By the way, just to alert you to what may be ahead: During the first few months of my celibacy experiments, there were two nights when I was extremely sensitive and unable to get to sleep. Both times I was wearing some tight-fitting underwear. The first time I changed into some looser-fitting underwear, and was eventually able to get to sleep without having an orgasm. The other time, I decided to see if I would have an orgasm without touching myself, and I did after a while just from the pressure of the underwear.

You might want to decide in advance what you will do if you get especially sensitive or have a hard time sleeping. If you want to avoid orgasm, I've found sometimes that just getting up, walking around the room, looking out the window, etc. can be enough to dissipate unwanted horniness. But when I've been trying to sleep for several hours and I'm half awake, I often fail to remember that, and I just endure and endure... smiley