Hounds of Hell Rewind

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Now where was I? Oh, yes...
Here is a quote from The Inner World of Trauma by Donald Kalsched: "...This new interpretation relies a great deal on dreams that immediately follow some traumatic moment in the patient's life. ...the archaic defenses associated with trauma are personified as archetypal daimonic images. In other words, trauma-linked dream imagery represents the psyche's self-portrait of its own archaic defensive operations. ...Typically, one part of the ego regresses to the infantile period, and another part progresses, i.e., grows up too fast and becomes precociously adapted to the outer world, often as a "false self" (Winicott, 1960a). The progressed part then caretakes the regressed part. ...In dreams, the regressed part of the personality is usually represented as a vulnerable, young, innocent (often feminine) child- or animal-self who remains shamefully hidden...Whatever its particular incarnation, this "innocent" remainder of the whole self seems to represent a core of the individual's imperishable personal spirit...It is the imperishable essense of the personality....The violation of this inner core of the personality is unthinkable. When other defenses fail, archetypal defenses will go to any length to protect the Self---even to the point of killing the host personality in which this personal spirit is housed (suicide)....Meanwhile, th progressed part of the personality is represented in dreams by a powerful benevolent or malevolent great being who protects or percecutes its vulnerable partner, sometimes keeping it imprisoned within. Occationally, in its protective guise, the benevolent/malevolent being appears as an angel of miraculous animal...More often the "caretaking" figure is daimonic and terrifying to the dream-ego....a murderer with a shotgun...or as the Devil himself." Emphasis in the original.

I just put 2+2 together about something. The first dream I ever remember was of a viscious, slavering, barking, roaring attack dog (specifically a doberman-like dog) that was leaning in an open window and barking at me. If anyone has read "Apocalypse Culture" and seen the picture of the attack dog in that book, that picture looks exactly like the dog in my dream. I had that dream the summer before I started kindergarden, when I was four-going-on-five. That, combined with bleeding into the toilet, which happened in summer when I was 4-going-on-five, makes me sure that I that I was indeed molested and didn't have some sort of accident (or a bladder infection like my mother said). I know now that I am not crazy for thinking I was molested. This is the first time I have ever really been sure.

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Murderer dreams

I sometimes have dreams of murderers. Once, I dreamed that I am at a picknick, just sitting under a tree enjoying the day, when a dark man** steps in front of me and shoots me in the face with a shot gun. Another time I dreamed that I am in a basement or concrete room below ground. The wall in front of me is painted bright turquoise blue, and blood is seeping though it from alot of murdered and dismembered people who a murderer has killed and hidden behind the wall. Now the murderer is after me because he wants to add me to the people behind the wall. Suddenly a figure who looks like Gene Hackman comes in and chases the murderer away.

These murderer figures are the malevolent caretaker figure of my psyche. The Gene Hackman figure would be the benevolent aspect of the caretaker.***

**these "dark man" figures are never African American. In my dreams, African Americans are always figures of joy and laughter.
***the first time I ever saw Gene Hackman was in a film called Bite the Bullet. In that film, he rescues a horse that is being beaten by a bully and gives the bully a good thrashing in punishment for beating the horse.

Living well is the best revenge *evil grin*

dog dream

And the dog dream was probably a picture of my psyche shortly after my father made me bleed. It is helping very much to be able to understand these images and what they mean. And for me, it is helping very much to be able to put this process out into a public-but-sheltered space. Trauma lives in the shadows. It may happen in public, but the damage goes on in the privacy of the psyche. Bringing what happened out into public in a safe way throws light into the dark corners. This process is rather like lancing a boil. The lancing process creates its own wound, but then the healing can begin. What I am doing now, in this blog, is lancing the boil. I am not "dwelling on" or "wallowing in" anything. If a person puts just puts a bandaid on a boil, the boil will continue to deepen and fester because the bacteria that cause boils create a fibrous capsule around themselves. The lancing process brings the infection to the surface, allowing the body's own healing processes to begin. It is the same with child sexual abuse. A walled-off memory, kept in secret, is a memory that cannot be healed...there must be a witness; not to the event that caused the trauma, but to what the event did to the psyche. I am lancing my walled-off memories. It may look like "dwelling on" to some, but others know that it is not.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you }:)

dream work

One thing I don't do nearly as regularly as I'd like to, is keeping a dream diary. Dream work is fascinating... even if sometimes we have to face some ugly recesses of our psyche.

Have you ever become lucid during one of those dream?

If one day you do, what do you think would be the wisest way to use this opportunity?

Would you fly up to escape from this nightmare and explore the higher levels of the Astral?

Would you conjure a large beam of light to light up those dark recesses?

Would you directly address those dogs/whatever to ask them about their significance/symbolism? Would you fight them?

Have you ever been lucid enough to make this kind of choice in a dream? I have been lucid only a few times that I remember, but not enough to carry out any plan I might have concocted beforehand.

My dreams almost always have

My dreams almost always have a quality of lucidity to them these days, in that I am aware that I am dreaming...sometimes vividly so. I have to do some more re-reading of The Inner World of Trauma, but if I remember what it said correctly, it said that the dreams that result from trauma are not like regular nightmares. According to Kalsched, the psyche (Self) of a non-traumatized person is concerned with individuation. But the psyche (Self) of a traumatized person is concerned with SURVIVAL...with the preservation of the personal Spirit at all costs...even to the point of suicide, and the difference is crucial to understand. So to answer the question of how I would approach the dogs, I would have to say that it would depend upon the origin of the dream figure. If it is an angry dream dog from a non-trauma event, I would probably befriend it...I have done this in dreams before...befriended wild animals like wolves, or dogs. But if it was a trauma-related dream, then I dont know how it would play out, or how I would react. I don't think I could carry out any plans concoccted beforehand. I would have to wait until I had a dream and see what happened spontaneously in the dream, or try to be conscious enough in the dream to change its outcome as it happened...something I have done in dreams before. While the psychic elements of trauma survivors are not evil, they are malevolent (or benevolent...it depends on which side of the Self has been constellated). But whether benevolent or malevolent, these trauma-related psychic figures are always protective. Reread the quote from The Inner World Of Trauma above...it really more or less relates the inner world of a trauma survivor in a nut-shell.

Somehow, people understand when Holocaust survivors are haunted by what happened to them, but refuse to understand when childhood sexual abuse survivors are haunted in the same way.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you }:)

Dreams

I do not have enough knowledge to speak with any authority on the subject of archetypes and dreams, though I am interested to go back and reread my Jungian books again. But I remember one counsellor I had telling me that every character in a dream represents a part of ourselves (that can include rooms, houses, scenes). I also know that disturbing dreams can occur at times when my 'outer' life seems to be progressing, and that 'pleasant' dreams can occur at times when my 'outer' life is incredibly stressful...the subconscious seems to run on its own timetable with what it wants to tell us. There appear to be levels of consciousness, the ordinary waking consciousness being often unaware of what is 'happening' downstairs, so to speak. But I am finding that with the practice of daily meditation and all-round mindful awareness, that the two are becoming more acquainted with each other, conscious mind, and subconscious mind.

Dream figures and setting do

Dream figures and setting do definitely refer to our inner world (the Self has been refered to as "a Commonwealth of archetypes), but dreams figures and situations can also refer to objective reality also. The entire context of the dream has to be taken into consideration. Too many people rush to interperate their dreams, or refer to dream dictionaries to find out the meaning of their dream symbols. It is better to simply record a dream without interpretation, simply as it happened. And your own personal feellings about the symbols are very important. If a person who loves to ski dreams of "snow", for instance, it may mean something very different from someone who hates winter. One of the very best books about dreams I have ever read is called The Dream and the Underworld by James Hillman, a neo-Jungian.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you }:)

Proprioceptive memories

Over the last few days, I've been getting a sense of my body's posture when my face was beaten when I was 13 or 14 months old. My mother says it happened in a fall, but the sense of it I am getting, which is still only a very faint echo, is that I was sitting upright and sitting still. There is no sense of falling, or having fallen. I am beginning to think I was beaten as I sat in my highchair.

So the feeling of being unable to get away would have been two-fold...at 13 or 14 months old, I was just learning to walk (according to my mother, I was a late walker), AND, if my sense of it is correct (and I am almost certain that it is) I was trapped in my highchair.

I have alway had this sense of stillness connected to a "feeling memory" (for lack of a better term) of profound dissociation, but I was unable to understand the meaning of it. I believe I am beginning to understand the meaning.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you }:)

I think I know what my dog dream was about!

I think I know what my dog dream was about! Donald Kalsched says that during trauma, ego defenses are overwhelmed and so archetypal defenses come into play to protect the personal spirit from any situation that the archetypal defenses see as resembling the original trauma. When I was beaten at the age of 13 or 14 months, I was just beginning to "move out" into the world, so-to-speak...beginning to talk and walk. Then, at the age of 4 1/2, I was severely molested, just at the age of another "moving out into the world" moment...starting school!!!. I have always been unable to find my place in the world. I am intellegent and academically inclined, and although I get very good grades, have always been unable to graduate from college or find where I belong in the world. I am beginning to thing that every time I do anything my archetypal defenses see as "moving out into the world" they start that inner malevolent-but-protective function/action that they do so well in order to keep me from being re-traumatized. I now believe that the dog dream was my archetypal defenses trying to protect me from what they saw as a danger point...my starting to move out into the world again. I do not remember any archetypal dreams that I may have had before the dog dream, but that doesnt mean that I had none. Donald Kalsched says that trauma is always worse when it happens at developmentally important points in a person's life. I would say that learning to talk and walk and starting school are two very important developmental milestones in a person's life. No wonder my archetypal defenses see "moving out into the world" as a souce of the utmost danger to me, and strive to prevent me from doing so. The purpose of archetypal defenses, is , after all to keep the person safe at all costs.

Just to clarify, archetypal defenses ARE NOT THE SAME as ego defenses. Archetypal defenses operate at the level of the Self, NOT the level of the ego. Archetypal defenses come into play when the ego's defenses are overwhelmed. They would also come into play immediately if the person is an infant who doesnt have a fully-formed ego.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you }:)

Thanks so much for the

Thanks so much for the links, AC. I like the look of John Barnes immensely...if I could ever get the money together, I'd go to him in a heartbeat.

And thank you so much for the encouragement, too :) :) :)

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you }:)