I was talking with my sister the other day about her decision to NOT have her new baby boy circumcised. I had never really given this issue much thought, but after speaking with my sister I immediately went online and read a few articles about the potential psychological, emotional, and sexual damages that can result from this practice.
What I learned really shocked and horrified me, and I found myself wondering if infant circumcision isn't contributing a great deal to our collective relationship disharmony. I think the title of one article I read really sums it up nicely -- "Ending Circumcision: Where Sex and Violence First Meet."
Basically the idea is that the circumcision (which is really partial castration) procedure is so unbearably painful and terrifying to the infant that it inflicts deep and far-reaching psychological and sexual wounds. This early trauma is then, in a sense, the infant's first sexual experience. What a horrible imprint. Is it any wonder so many of our men our drawn to pornography and fantasies in which the female (mother..?) is bound, gagged, victimized, harmed? This mirrors the baby's earliest sexual trauma.
When a baby is circumcised, he is strapped "spread eagle" to a plastic board, completely restrained. Usually the procedure is performed without any anaesthetic. If you are interested, you can easily find (very graphic) photographs of this online. I found the images to be heartbreaking and frightening -- the babies' facial expressions alone are enough of a testament to how barbaric this procedure really is, nevermind the awful pictures of the mutilated genitalia.
It is now my belief that ending circumcision is a critical step in healing the collective gender rift and becoming whole again.
When I brought this up with my partner, he said that it made perfect sense to him. He said that he had always wondered why he in his sexuality felt drawn to the "female victim" theme, since he is a very kind and gentle soul who in reality would never harm a fly.
We owe it to ourselves and especially to our circumcised males to raise awareness about this issue. I do not think we will be able to fully disentangle the threads of sex and violence without taking a much closer, more critical look at how and why we circumcise our baby boys.
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Circumcision
I'm so grateful we decided to not have our son circumcised....
it was only last week that I began to worry that he would
feel as though there was something wrong with him, because
so many boys on his swim team (he is 11) have been circumcised.
Thank you for the info Hyzenthlay! (By the way, "Watership
Down" is one of my favorite books.)
Sunlee
Female Circumcision
In the current world climate there is a lot of contempt for Muslim traditions and their culture. Its more often in Islamic societies that female clitoral circumcision has occurred and thankfully it seems to be in a decline. Although to our western mind set it might seem ridiculous, one has to wonder where the custom came from. In this current society where women's liberation is still a hot topic the most assumed reason is that it was a means by which men could subjugate their female companions.
It has also occurred to me that perhaps it was a means of avoiding orgasm. Maybe at some stage they discovered that things got more harmonious when the women were surgically deprived of their sensitive areas.
We will never know either way, unless someone has recorded it somewhere. Perhaps Marnia in her exhaustive research has come across something. Maybe they couldn't quite master the "Sacrament of the Bedchamber" so they got the scalpel out instead.
Either way please don't let it be thought that I am a proponent of the procedure in either man or women.
For some reason I was circumcised as an infant but I have never found it in me to consider that I was gravely injured by the procedure. It was what my parents and society considered prudent at that time and it was carried out with good intentions.
Welcome back from your travels!
I'm afraid I have no light to shed on this one...which I (not surprisingly) regard as one of humanity's darkest deeds.
Thanks for your musings. Western women generally regard female circumcision as "obviously" men's desire to control women (keep them from wandering when habituation kicks in?). But one of the most horrific aspects of this form of cruelty is that women carry it out on their own daughters - like Chinese foot-binding. I think of smug, self-righteous (often) religious women in other cultures (including our own), and see how blind and single-minded they can become, and I *wonder* if men are really to blame here. (I know I can trust Hotspring to argue the other side of this very ably!)
I did learn one interesting thing about female circumcision while living in Europe, where the practice is still common among Middle Eastern immigrants (in fact, the Dutch, at one point, tried to legalize it, in attempt to at least get people to carry out this radical, risky surgery in a hospital...until the outrage of Western women shamed them into nixing the idea). It had nothing to do with Islam. It's "an African thing," which, as Islam spread into Africa, found its way under the Islam tent. It is not practiced by all Muslims.
Whatever its origins - and you may be right, Graham - it's just one more example of how weird humans can get about sex. I think if we were making love in a way that kept us feeling balanced and whole, such practices would never arise for male or female.
circumcision
I've been there. Don't do it.
After a beautiful home birth my exwife and I had our son circumcised at 7 days. We were there with the young doctor who we chose to do it. Lovingly in support of our beautiful son. Circumcision was the cultural norm for us, I had been at birth also. He was strapped to a plastic board as described and a clamp mechanism that fit over the head of the penis with a screw tightened ring which crushed its way through the foreskin was applied. The doctor was inexorably competent. his nursing staff hid in the outer rooms. we tried to comfort our baby. He screamed and squirmed. I am still retraumatised in my body as I type this, and I still feel sick and horrified when I contemplate my involvement. This is one of the things that I regret the most. it was torturing an infant. My own son who I loved and cherished. That was 27 years ago. Don't do it.
I have gone into my own body memory and felt residual pain in my penis. I have apologised to my son directly while knowing that he would not have any consious memory.(I hope) He even got a bit of his own back by running off with a girlfriend of mine and living with her for a few years. She was a bit younger than me. It's all water under the bridge now. And we are on good terms. I was incredibly enrolled in my societies stupid violence.
My second son was not circumcised.
Tears come to my eyes,and I'd like to be forgiven. but what is done, is done. And whether forgivness happens or not. There is no going back.
That's this fathers views on the subject.
Men who want to weep
may find this new documentary about circumcision by a Jewish man especially powerful. I think this is a clip from it: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2372535130226634650
Jewish Circumcision Joke
Two Jews standing at a urinal.
Jew One : I see you are Jewish
Jew Two : Yes how did you know?
Jew One : You were circumcised by Rabi Rabonowich.
Jew Two : That's right. How did you know it was Rabi Rabonowich?
Jew One : Because he can't cut straight and you are peeing on my shoe.
I am not sure, do the Jewish Rabis still do it?
Here's the motivation for female circumcision...
http://www.circumcisionquotes.com/index15.html
If you scroll down a bit on this page someone talks the case for female circumcision. He even proposes it as a means to avoid teenage pregnancies in the us "especially for minorities".
Watched the documentary you linked to Marnia. I'm keeping my hoody thanks! Though it's smallish by nature so I've been asked before if it was snipped.
On the same site there was a page about people having circumcision fetish's, damn I thought I got turned on by some freaky stuff before but I guess not...
http://www.circumcisionquotes.com/
Better and better every time!
I was circumcised at the age
I was circumcised at the age of 2; my parents tell me....and I suffer no complexes about my sexual organs. Neither do most people who get circumcised. As long as you go to somebody who is competent; then its fine and has no drawbacks.
Your handle..
I just noticed your handle, do you hang on gnosticweb.com any?
Both are barbaric, but...
Male circumcision was possibly a way of preventing build-up under the foreskin in a hot or humid climate, and then became part of the religious culture in many parts of the world. Though obviously painful at the time, it does NOT and was not intended to reduce male enjoyment of sex later on. Unlike the misleadingly named 'female circumcision' whose SOLE purpose is to take away the most immediate means of sexual gratification from women so that they would not bother to 'stray' from their husbands when they grew up. This is not a cultural issue, it is just plain wrong to genitally mutilate. If we want a fair comparison, it is not with male curcumcision. A fair comparison is, imagine someone had cut the whole head of our penis off. That's the level of violence that is being done to baby girls.
And yet, it is even more
And yet, it is even more absurd that the practice is still carried out seeing as how it is not effective in supressing female desire. I've read a number of books on the subject and some women are still able to orgasm, and some women still do stray from their husbands. This is because sexuality is much broader than the sexual organs themselves.
I read about one culture (and I'm sorry I don't remember which one), that used circumcision as a means to get rid of the male part (the "little penis") of the woman and the female part (the lips, or foreskin) of the male, so that men and women would be completely male and completely female, with no hints of androgeny anywhere.
Let's keep in mind female circumcision happens in our culture as well, both physically and psychologically. Any act that manipulates or seeks to control the divine feminine is female circumcision, in my mind. And there are many ramifications of that.