Pain Management...

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My issues with PMO have been primarily associated with efforts at pain relief. I have come to the following conclusions about pain relief.

My physical history has left me with a base line of pain of about a 2, on a scale of 1-10 with 1 being a twinge (0 would be totally pain free) and 10 being totally unbearable "make you pass out" pain. What I discovered years ago is that my body does NOT respond to "normal" pain medicine, whether it be aspirin, Tylenol, Ibuprophen, more exotic NSAIDs or even opiates. I found only two things that actually helped numb pain...O and alcohol. Alcohol was always only minimally effective, and had unacceptable side effects. Misunderstanding O and thinking it had zero side effects made it the "logical" choice for pain management. PMO could be an acronym for "Pain Management through Orgasm". It is the abuse of O as pain management that has slowly, over time, deteriorated my erectile function to the point where full blown ED is the problem. The side effects are definitely not zero.

Due to the diminishing returns in the pain relief value of O, I had also added A (Alcohol) into the mix, even though it has known bad side effects. I had literally degenerated into a drunken porn and masturbation addict with little to no actual life. It has now been over a week since my departure from P and M, and last night was the first A I consumed in that time as well...though I did NOT consume enough to get much in the way of pain relief...I have found that I did not NEED pain relief. 2 I can handle.

Now the revelation on pain management. It is a misnomer. Draw a line on a graph of your base pain level over time...mine is a 2. Taking a drug or otherwise artificially numbing the pain to 0 will NOT remove any pain from the graph...all it will do is move it to the right (future) and STACK it on top of the base line. For illustration, if I bring my 2 down to 0 through drugs, alcohol and/or O for three hours, it will drop the line to 0 for those three but it will INCREASE the line from 2 to 4 for the next three, or something similar. This is part of why an addict must increase the frequency in which they dose whatever it is they are using, because when it wears off the pain is increased from where it would have been. Eventually, critical mass is reached and your pain is 10 for a while. This is where the overdose or suicide usually occurs. What "coming down" means is enduring the stacked pain until it returns to base line.

Traditional western symptomatic management of pain is merely kicking it to the right on the graph. How the pain lands on your graph is not likely linear, more likely exponential with most of the pain stacking up immediately after the effect of the "pain reliever" wears off. Bad news and no better than deficit spending is at managing a budget.

As a young man, I had enough energy sexually to burn some of it for pain relief and still have an active sex life. Unfortunately, due to the stacking nature of pain when "managed" this way, it took more and more of my sexual energy to manage pain until I had none left. This is when P came into the picture in an effort to generate additional sexual energy...but still, all of my sexual energy and then some was consumed for pain management. It was when I attempted to pull my wife into the P in an effort to direct some of the use of my sexual energy back to her, where it belonged that she threw up a brick wall. Her response was "You've got to be f'in kidding're the perv, not me". By this time, we were barely not divorced.

Nevertheless, running into this brick wall convinced me to completely reevaluate my "pain management" strategy.

That marked the beginning of this journey, which is already restoring balance to my life.

Karezza includes an element of what might be termed low impact sensual massage, which is actually an excellent form of pain management. Actually managing to reduce pain by reducing stress. Less stress equals less pain...naturally. I can already tell the difference only one week into this.


I think you're definitely on to something

Cuddling/karezza seems to release oxytocin, which has been shown to reduce pain, blood pressure and anxiety. Unlike the pain management techniques that increase tolerance (well described by you above), oxytocin has been shown to work the other way. That is, it becomes more effective over time. (So far, I think it has only been tested in nursing moms, not for pain management though.)

Let's hope this is the Way Out for you and your sweetheart.

It's clear from studies that oxytocin can reduce several types

It's clear from studies that oxytocin can reduce several types of pain or increase pain threshold. A few stduies below

Extremely low doses of oxytocin reduce pain sensitivity in men

, Volume 122, Issue 5, pp 1071-1073

The effect of extremely low doses of oxytocin (vapor) on the perception of pain (pricking of the finger) is studied on 48 healthy volunteers. Inhalation of oxytocin vapor from the standard solution in doses producing a sensation of smell lowers pain threshold by 56.5%. Inhalation of oxytocin vapor creating no sense of smell has a lower hypalgesic effect. The oxytocin-induced hypalgesia is consistent with reduction in the heart reactivity to pain.

The interaction between the oxytocin and pain modulation in headache patients.

Neuropeptides. 2013 Apr;47(2):93-7. doi: 10.1016/j.npep.2012.12.003. Epub 2013 Jan 30.

Oxytocin (OXT), a nonapeptide hormone of posterior pituitary, reaches the central nervous system from systemic blood circulation with a difficulty because of the blood-brain barrier (BBB). The interest has been expressed in the use of the nasal route for delivery of OXT to the brain directly, exploiting the olfactory pathway. Our previous study has demonstrated that OXT in the central nervous system rather than the blood circulation plays an important role in rat pain modulation. The communication tried to investigate the interaction between the OXT and pain modulation in Chinese patients with headache to understand the OXT effect on human pain modulation. The results showed that (1) intranasal OXT could relieve the human headache in a dose-dependent manner; (2) OXT concentration in both plasma and cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) increased significantly in headache patients in relation with the pain level; and (3) there was a positive relationship between plasma and CSF OXT concentration in headache patients. The data suggested that intranasal OXT, which was delivered to the central nervous system through olfactory region, could treat human headache and OXT might be a potential drug of headache relief by intranasal administration.

Oxytocin, but not arginine vasopressin is involving in the antinociceptive role of hypothalamic supraoptic nucleus.

Peptides. 2011 Feb 15;

Our pervious study has demonstrated that the hypothalamic supraoptic nucleus (SON) plays a role in pain modulation. Oxytocin (OXT) and arginine vasopressin (AVP) are the important hormones synthesized and secreted by the SON. The experiment was designed to investigate which hormone was relating with the antinociceptive role of the SON in the rat. The results showed that (1) microinjection of l-glutamate sodium into the SON increased OXT and AVP concentrations in the SON perfusion liquid, (2) pain stimulation induces OXT, but not AVP release in the SON, and (3) intraventricular injection (pre-treatment) with OXT antiserum could inhibit the pain threshold increase induced by SON injection of l-glutamate sodium, but administration of AVP antiserum did not influence the antinociceptive role of SON stimulation. The data suggested that the antinociceptive role of the SON relates to OXT rather than AVP.


J Pain. 2006 Nov 8; 

Antinociceptive effects of oxytocin have been demonstrated in mice, rats, dogs, and humans. It has been shown that oxytocin receptors and fibers with oxytocin were distributed in the nucleus accumbens (NAc) of rats. The present study was performed to investigate the regulating role of oxytocin in nociception in the NAc of rats. Intra-NAc administration of oxytocin-induced dose-dependent increases in the hindpaw withdrawal latency (HWL) to noxious thermal and mechanical stimulation in rats, indicating that oxytocin has antinociceptive effects in the NAc of rats. Furthermore, the oxytocin-induced antinociceptive effects were attenuated by intra-NAc administration of the opioid-receptor antagonist naloxone, suggesting that the endogenous opioid system is involved in the oxytocin-induced antinociception in the NAc. Moreover, the oxytocin-induced antinociception was attenuated by intra-NAc injection of the kappa-receptor antagonist nor-binaltorphimine (nor-BNI) and the mu-receptor antagonist beta-funaltrexamine, but not by the delta-receptor antagonist naltrindole, demonstrating the involvements of mu- and kappa-receptors, but not delta-receptor, in the oxytocin-induced antinociception in the NAc of rats. PERSPECTIVE: This article supplements the evidence that oxytocin regulates nociception in the central nervous system. It presents additional material for clinical application of oxytocin as an analgesia drug.


Contact Comfort has a neurobiological basis.

apparently. For being so scientifically advanced, the west is woefully ignorant of some rather important aspects of our own existence. We teach "sex ed" in schools...the mechanics of reproduction and how to prevent it...but we fail to teach what sex is actually best for. Maybe we can advance on that front to where the eastern/egyptians were learning thousands of years ago. There is a scripture that comes to mind...

KJV: Romans 1:22. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

In all of our "wisdom", we are foolish. And it is most pronounced within the so-called "church"...which is why we often hear of Pastors who fall prey to P and M and infidelity. These are the ones who are supposed to be able to mentor and lead their parishioners in a path that will make them more likely to remain true in their marriages, and they fail by the droves. Of all places, one would expect the church to be where the divorce rate is lowest...but I would hazard a guess that it is places like this who have the best results.