UK teens - poll about porn

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Check out some of their results.

This generation grew up on tube sites (streaming porn clips) and then got smartphones. They see the risks better than the "educator" who didn't have a clue about why internet porn is different.

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Yep.They do!

I was disturbed at the lack of men in the conversation. The facilitator's role (the only male) was more to ask questions than to provide feedback. He didn't really present a position. There were no men (young or old) in the role of providing their input from the panel. I've run into a similar situation myself where I live. There just don't seem to be opportunities for men to get involved in sexual health (with the exception of AIDS prevention). It seems to me that men are often framed as potential perpetrators of sexual violence regardless if there is any substance to that claim or not. I wonder how a man on this show would have been received if he were to present problems with the effect of porn (or alternatively took the position that porn is a healthy form of sexual expression).

It's good to see that young people are in general more aware of the problems with porn. I wonder where it will lead. Will we swing back to Victorian repression or will we evolve to a higher level of integration?

Thanks for the post.

Well it's easier to get teen girls

to (get permission from parents) to talk ABOUT their peers' porn use than it is to get teen boys, who are presumed to BE USERS on TV to chat about their experience. This is why the mainstream has been so slow to catch on the harm young boys and men are suffering as a consequence of porn use.

I was more appalled by the ignorance of the "expert," who had clearly been fed the standard issue sexology crap. That's what med schools are teaching. And that is why many doctors have been giving lousy advice to guys with porn-related symptoms: http://yourbrainonporn.com/what-experts-tell-guys-suffering-from-ed

So why do you think they are doing this?

It's pretty clear to me that Ellen Adams is keen on education. She seems to think that that will cure all ills. Clearly she's underestimating the power of visual imagery. Sexpression UK is a university based program, so their bias will be towards "objective" education. They aren't likely to be keen to rock the boat. Their funding sources are usually pretty conservative.

Why do you think sexologists are promoting less than effective remedies? Doctors are pretty much dominated by the pharmaceutical model of health (one pill for every ill). Are sexologists afraid to illustrate the risks of porn because 1. They have no idea of how love works in sexual relations 2. Are afraid of facing the challenges in their own sex lives. 3. Are afraid of running out of work if effective and relatively simple remedies are found?

What do you think?

I think its because they are catering to cultural values that have no idea what Love is and no practical interest in it. Our cultural concept of Love is riddled with extremes and confusion. It usually stays in books, poems, dreams and the like but not into our lives much, if at all.

Sincerely,

"Arnold"

Here's what I think

As a culture, we missed the boat due to politics and ignorance, and so we're very far behind in terms of the science behind the effects of sex on the brain. And these days, the only people really digging into it appear to be looking for the next viagra, not trying to understand the real implications for human relationships:

The Wages of Sexual-Addiction Politics | Your Brain On Porn

But the research is piling up, and if anyone ever does look at the problem from the relationship angle, it should be pretty obvious that neurochemical events after orgasm have to have potential impact on perceptions, priorities and relationships.

http://www.reuniting.info/science/research

Thanks!

Yes,

Politics is a strange beast. I remember seeing somewhere on this site "Professionals built the Titanic, Amateurs built the Ark!". It seems like us amateurs are in the lead and hopefully someday the professionals and politicians will catch up.

So what could we do about Ellen Adams? Do you think that contacting the producer would make a difference and/or Sexpression UK?

Cheers,

"Arnold"

I see what you are concerned about.

Yes,

Ellen Adams didn't take a strong position at all. She just basically said that education is good and minimized the risks. The younger teen girls took a much stronger position against porn.

It's too bad they didn't invite an older male (or female) who had experienced problems with porn use and had recovered or someone like yourself who is more informed of the risks. I'm not surprised that no teen males were interviewed. That's a difficult group to get to talk about anything.

Interesting video. Thanks for posting it.

"...Why do you think

"...Why do you think sexologists are promoting less than effective remedies?..."

I think the powers-that-be want to keep us enslaved and clueless. So, they brainwash or coopt 'experts', and put compliant 'experts' on pedestals, via TV appearances, promoted books, Nobel prizes, etc.

We are lied to on a daily basis by complicit media: I have examined the evidence, and it appears to me that the Foley beheading was a hoax. Same with the Sandy Hoax shooting and Boston Marathon bombing. Same with our flights to the moon via Apollo and 9/11.

We are fed lies from 'experts' and government daily about food, medicine, and everything.

Thank goodness people are waking up. Thank goodness that trust in all levels of government -- even the Supreme Court -- is plummeting. Thank goodness that TV viewership, newspaper circulation, and movie attendance is dropping like a stone. I think people are increasingly thinking for themselves, as they tune out the brainwashing weakstream media.

The opinions of sexologists and other 'experts' are given less and less weight each day, it seems to me.

These last few years, I have developed a real sense of comfort about our future, as I have seen The Establishment /Cabal suffer a long string of defeats in economics and foreign affairs.

I've just finished reading

Trust Me I'm Lying. It's about media manipulation. And, in a way, I think you're right. The blatant "non-news" is becoming so obvious that it could ultimately backfire...losing all credibility.

On the other hand, that leaves a huge void and makes it very difficult to educate and inform oneself. Faced with the daunting task of helping to get the word out that a lot of sexual performance and other woes could be reversed simply by quitting porn, I see how difficult it is to get real information that is helpful and not toxic (but that has no commercial appeal) into the public. Amazing really. Supposedly bloggers are desperate for material, but only if it entertains, outrages, creates sexual arousal, can be snarked to the point of humiliation, or features cats doing funny things.

It's either a huge tragedy, or a phase that will lead to something far better.

Responsibility

A great advantage to this age is the access to information via the Internet. It has it's challenges in that you can get very conflicting views on the same issue. It gets difficult to tell who to trust. Trust comes from within oneself in my experience. Hopefully we are entering an age where we are searching ourselves for direction much more strongly than ever before. In my mind, this is very hopeful. To stand in one's own truth and understanding is the core of a sincere approach to spiritual practice. It is also where Love originates. Maybe, as a culture, we are now teenagers rather than infants. Perhaps adulthood isn't so far off!

Marnia and Arnold, The Cabal

Marnia and Arnold, The Cabal is in its death throes. That is why we are seeing bald-faced, poorly-executed, and inconsequential fear campaigns, now. Folks in Connecticut and New York refused to register their guns -- despite public pressure and legal threats -- after Sandy Hoax and the Boston Marathon bombing and Americans want no war with Iran or Syria -- or a return to Iraq -- despite the created threats of ISIS.

When The Cabal falls and their control of the media fails, there will be a stage and there will be room for truth-tellers.

Until then, the Internet is a Godsend for truth-seekers. No doubt, it takes effort -- and personal, internal consideration and evaluation -- to sort wheat from chaff. But, I am most thankful for the Internet.

Keep up the truth-telling! You are on the side that will prevail!

I feel for you and Gary: you

I feel for you and Gary: you have identified truth, and your spreading of the word is hampered -- purposely, I think -- by The Establishment. And, even when the message gets delivered, its practice is seen as trying, given that many folks are poisoned, weakened, and agitated by our 'food' and 'medicine,' fluoridated water, EMF-ridden environment, etc.

You may, or may not, find inspiration in this column (it is long; the first section is sufficient). I found it resonating and heartening, and from it better understand why truth does not always set the world on fire. Me, I now accept what I cannot change, and -- until The Cabal falls -- am content to serve The Remnant.
http://mises.org/daily/2892

Thanks so much for the essay

I loved it, both the sentiment and the clever writing. I finally understand what I've been doing for the last 20 years. Mosking

And maybe some of it will reach beyond The Remnant because widespread sexual dysfunctions are getting more attention than might otherwise be predicted.

Thanks John G.!

That's a very interesting essay. It reminded me of Osho's efforts to communicate. He had an interesting mix of approaches. He would stir up interest to a large amount of people and then do or say something that would put off the vast majority. He effectively culled people whose hearts weren't completely into experimenting with his approach after assembling a fairly large mixed batch. When asked why he went to the trouble of speaking at all, he would say that it was his joy. He seemed to have no concern for what people did with it. It's a little like the saying in the front of the Larousse dictionary, "Je seme a tout vent" (I sow in all conditions (favourable and unfavourable)).

I hope, Marnia, that you and Gary enjoy what you are doing. I am certainly grateful to you for what I've learned through you and am happy to share my understanding to whomever is willing to listen.

Sincerely,

"Arnold"