Porn as an abstract concept

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I read this on reddit, and found it quite fascinating. Hope you think it was worth sharing!

http://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/svc5k/pictures_and_videos_lose_so...

This is a little bit hard to explain but I'll try.

There's been a slight change in how I look at the whole nudity/porn issue. I'm not sure what precipitated the change but it made it easier for me in that I don't have to avoid those things altogether. The urge to masturbate lessened because I no longer consider mere images enough to turn myself on anymore. Only images that are given the stamp of reality by your conscious brain can do that. Stop giving them that stamp of reality-approval and you will stop being affected by them.

Think of this: When we look at a picture or a video, we CHOOSE to be turned on, because we CHOOSE to ignore their essence -- photons of glossy light emanating from a surface of a screen or being reflected from glossy paper, photons whose pattern was CODED.

There was a pic of Marilyn Monroe a few days ago, which was marked NSFW because some people might fap to it. Think about that. She's dead. And if she wasn't she would have been old. How can you fap to that if you think even for a second about at what you're looking?

Let's extend the train of thought a little further. You have a hardcore vid in front of you. Pause and think. Think about when the actual events took place, think of what the purpose of creating them was, think of where the people are now. Realize that you're looking at a code which captured some activity that happened a while ago, somewhere far away, and ANY AND ALL REALITY OF IT is given to it by you, and you only.

SEPARATE REALITY FROM ABSTRACTION.

This was a feeble attempt at explaining something very vague that occurred to me some days ago. But it might help.

Lol...what if we can't trust

Lol...what if we can't trust our own senses? That would apply to self-sensation too. I'm not saying this is valid. However, it could be. As media gets more realistic, easier to show across spacetime, etc, our realness seems less unique.

If this worked I would have had it licked.

I'm opposed to "abstracting" away the lives of the women in the videos on political grounds. If anything, a genuine critique of porn must include the political economy of porn, how it was produced, under what conditions and for whose profit.

Those people aren't abstractions. There are real people in the videos. There's lots of great advice on here on how to quit porn and there are lots of people who have done it, I'm just skeptical of this line of reasoning. Quitting porn for me was about treating other people as human beings and not bags of meat that exist for my pleasure.

I should mention though, that for all my political reasons for quitting, politics alone didn't help me quit porn any more than pretending the people in the videos "aren't real" did. There's much more to it than that. It has to be a commitment deep down inside that you won't give in no matter what. There may be some relapsing but the end goal of complete separation only happens if we take certain steps to prevent the next use.

"Only images that are given the stamp of reality by your conscious brain can do that. Stop giving them that stamp of reality-approval and you will stop being affected by them."

This is particularly troublesome because my conscious brain wanted to quit porn long before it wrested control of the lizard brain that wanted constant "action." These images fool the reward circuitry and completely bypass conscious control. For that reason, even though I have had some consistent time without porn and I am consciously deciding I don't want it, if I *did* watch it right now, I wouldn't have any control in whether it turned me on or not.

The end result would be a binge, I reckon, which is why I have every intention to avoid porn at all costs, for the rest of my life. I'm not missing out on anything in this regard. I used to think I could go back and check in on porn and it wouldn't be a problem but I've let go of that idea and surrendered to the fact that there's no going back. Wouldn't have it any other way, I'm a better person this way and more alive, I believe.

I'm glad to see some new ideas, even if I don't agree with the method, it shows you are trying to find ways to beat this and you *can* but I think it has more to do with taking physical actions of different kinds than simply willing porn not to "turn you on."

Best,

DC

I was simply pointing out that it's not enough.

I don't think the conscious brain does any "rewiring." This kind of shows the limits of the machine analogy because in the sense of rewiring a computer you can just take out the old mother board and replace it with a new one. There ya go, all done! No sweat.

I believe we do have to sweat and do some hard self searching. I believe our brains get rewired by what we *do* not by what we think. A lot of other things get done in the process and we are outside our brains and get into our bodies and fully integrate there. That's something I still need to work on but I'm getting better at it. We do make conscious decisions but if those decisions aren't followed up with consistently then the result is more of the same.