Ultra-Orthodox Jews Fill Stadium for Rally on Internet

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Related and another filter option

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-life-and-religion/99840/rallying-against-the-internet

http://techcitement.com/internet-2/webapps/yeshiva-university-wants-stud...

http://yuarevim.weebly.com This group is using a clever approach of peer accountability via http://www.covenanteyes.com That might work for some here. 

It might be simpler if they separated aspects into categories: internet addiction, porn addiction, everything else. Or however else they see fit. Lumping everything under the internet muddies the issues.

Thanks for the extra info

I'd heard of Covenant Eyes. Accountability works really well for some people.

I have mixed feelings about "Internet addiction" as a concept, but it's the way the issue will be tackled, because the addiction experts are labeling their findings that way. And, in truth, women have their own Internet challenges so maybe it's for the best to lump everyone together. Did you see this full graphic? http://www.social-brand-value.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/internet_ad... (click to enlarge)

On the other hand, in one study of university students, 25% of the males met the "addiction" test, and only 10% of the women did, so clearly it's a much bigger hazard for guys...probably due to porn and gaming. The guys deserve to have solid information that doesn't artificially minimize the rates of addiction by throwing in everyone else and their social networking addictions.

I also don't like the

I also don't like the internet addiction label. Libraries have just as much information. The social networking addiction may be different than the information junkie addiction. Perhaps these are all screen addictions. Or perhaps what is wrong is a breakdown in relationships as whole, without which, these addictions wouldn't develop.

Society is going to have to accept that addiction is mostly a normal condition. Mental health folks rarely seem to want to acknowledge the normalcy in being unable to adjust to changes. It isn't abnormal because it limits one's functioning.

I guess we would say

these are all "novelty-at-a-click" addictions. Novelty is rewarding, and when it's too easy, it can grab and hold our attention to the point of overstimulation...and then brain sensitivity can be affected in some folks.

Not sure I agree that "addiction is mostly a normal condition." Addiction as we define it is "brain abnormalities." If you mean it's becoming quite common, I would agree, but it's doing abnormal things to brains.

Addiction is a process. The

Addiction is a process. The process is normal, meaning not neurotic. It leads to brains being outside the default condition they were in before the addictive process rewired the brain. Those changes too, are a non-neurotic response to the stimuli. A brain can become abnormal via a normal process. Does that elaboration make sense?

I try not to use normal as typical. The semantics get to be impossible.

Perfect sense

and I agree. It is normal for brains to place high value on superstimuli and "learn" to pursue them via physical changes, which with continued overconsumption can create dysregulated brains.

Although quite a few

Although quite a few commenters sneered about this on various media sites, it is an admirable initiative. I think, despite the protestations to the contrary, that porn is the big issue that the religious/community leaders are thinking about, but don't want to talk about publicly or dwell on too much, which I can understand. Heck, I can't even do it outside of this forum to my closest friends or family. Sure, people are addicted to information, social networking, IM'ing etc, but porn addiction is internet addiction at its most spiritually demeaning.

Two groups of people struggle to deal with internet porn: those for whom it is a fact of life and who claim to be not affected by it at all. The guys (and some girls) who see it as no big deal and perhaps cant imagine life without hi-speed internet porn. Then there are those who keep it under wraps: those who are old enough to have not grown up with hi-speed internet ( born before 1989/1990?), and those who are committed adherents to a faith (e.g. Orthodox Jews, committed Catholics, committed evangelicals etc). They struggle with it because it is not congruent with who they are as individuals and who they want to be in public. The NYT picture showed a lot of young men.