why 90 days?

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Hi, I may have missed the notion behind why 90 days is the 'turning point' for addicts to recover from the effects of pornography?
Am I right in saying that the neurotransmitter balance is the main thing that is resolved at this point and in turn a generally natural flow of sexual energy?


its just a general time frame

its just a general time frame. Some people need 60 days, some need 90 some need over 120. everyones different. Its just better to abstain longer than necessary because it assures that your getting the most out of your reboot.

As for why, im not 100% sure on the exact science, but your brain goes through a period where it accepts that porn is gone and has to become readjusted to reality. its all on yourbrainonporn.com look there.

At first we had guys

recovering in about two months...but most had had sex before highspeed came along. The younger guys who cut their teeth on highspeed often need longer and also have to spend time wiring to real partners.

The 90-day idea is popular on RedditNoFap, and probably came from the standard 12-Step recipe: "90 meetings in 90 days." As far as biology goes, DeltaFosB...and molecular switch for addiction brain changes...dissipates at about 6-8 weeks, so it may be one time marker. But it hasn't been measured in porn addicts. It can only be measured in animal models, and rats don't use porn to the point of ED. Wink

It would be really nice to have scientists map out the recovery markers, but even with other addictions, there's surprisingly little of this.


Thanks. It would be fascinating if scientists could map out the recovery process and even the brain changes that occur as a result of porn usage. So how do they know about DeltaFosB and other changes during addiction? The first time I heard about DeltaFosB was in Norman Doidge's article you posted, thanks, it was quite revealing.

Yes, it would be fascinating

Right now a lot of the measurements, such as DeltaFosB, can only be made through technologies that are too "invasive" to use on humans. That word generally means the rat has to be "sacrificed" before researchers can measure a marker, or that wires and tubes need to be put into its brain. *sigh*

So far only "macro" changes related to addiction can be seen in humans - via non-invasive neuroimaging. However, new technologies are coming out daily, so it won't be long. Gary's working on a post that discusses two coming possibilities of testing for porn addiction. It may arrive sooner than you think...and with it may come a much more detailed knowledge of the recovery process on a neurobiological scale.

High time!