Oxytocin after orgasm???

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Thanks in order to have answered.
I would have a scientific question to make.
There are more study who determine whether plasma oxytocin levels change during human sexual response: "Plasma oxytocin levels increased during sexual arousal in both women and men and were significantly higher during orgasm/ejaculation". But i don't have read some study who determine whether plasma oxytocin levels change after orgasm.
I believe (why I have tried it) that the orgasm (but still more the hot sex) create disarmony, therefore lowering of the levels of ossitocina. But i am curious to find some answer to scientific character.
Thanks of all.
Bye

oxytocin release and sublimation

Hello, dear unknown friends,
All the subjects in that site are intriguing me highly and I really want to get deeper in the subject of biochemistry related to sexual intercourse. Actually, we hardly can say something essentially different of the ancient knowledge. In my opinion – what is most important nowadays according the subject of sexual sublimation, is to link the olden knowledge with the contemporary science. There is a gap between them. I am really happy that I found you. The efforts of the creators of this site are very, very important. The scientific research will continue, of course, it is still in its commencement.
Regarding the oxytocin – Physicians will tell more precisely about it. I can only suppose and express it psychologically! While making love in meditative manner, my feelings are as follows: More desire I have, more possibilities to experience deeper and happier state of mind and stability in life! Well, Sigmund Freud has called it sublimation… More passion one has, more energy he possesses. The act can begin slowly, or passionately, it doesn't matter. What matters, is the depth of experiencing of the act. Physically, when the person has mastered the orgasm, and has the ability to draw the energy toward the brain and circulate it, the ac tcan be prolonged and felt in more subtle levels. The techniques of orgasm control should be made automatic, to become a praxis, habit, because if it is not, it will cease the possibilities for deeper experience! After a several months or year, all needed to control the orgasm is heading the mind and eyes upwards, with light inhaling! In the beginning of that practice are needed more intense and physical methods.
Here comes the question: “Which is first? The Han or the egg?” Which one is leading – the newly adopted way of tender loving propels one toward spiritual advancement, or the spiritual advancement allows one to experience the intercourse in subtler way? My practice shows, that the answer is: Both! If the individual is interested just in pleasure, he will not have the patience and will to study the necessary practices, and will not have the ability to feel something deeper than the coarse pleasure. All the spiritual and psychological teachings around the globe offer magnificent wisdom, that brings increasingly better wellbeing and level of perception of the whole! Having experience in some spiritual (psychological) discipline, in meditation, self mastering and exploring, will give natural opportunity to integrate the sacred sexuality into the entire live and inner strivings!
From another hand, even novice in the self exploring will benefit a lot learning methods of meditative intercourse, which by itself will make one undergo inner experiences that he has never felt hitherto. The regular passionate sex transforms naturally into deeper love making experiences. Heart automatically opens and the couple experiences sex in higher level. It becomes everything, but not sex, as it is known by almost everyone! It becomes prayer, meditation and contemplation! It becomes spiritual practice itself and celibacy in its true meaning!
After reading the articles, offered here by Marnia and compared the knowledge about biochemistry with my experience, I could suggest the following hypothesis:
Instead of rolling up and down of dopamine – prolactine circle, impacting directly our mood and behavior, practicing inner sacred loving, we trigger the following process – Testosterone pushes the dopamine mediator, I.e., felt as desire and sexual urge! Our control over orgasm, though, doesn't allow dropping into the chasm of regular orgasm, which inevitably influence us gravely, especially over the years of abusing. Instead – created high pressure realizes the process, called in psychology, chemistry and physics sublimation. From Wikipedia:
Sublimation of an element or substance is a conversion between the solid and the gas phases with no intermediate liquid stage. Sublimation is a phase transition that occurs at temperatures and pressures below the triple point (see phase diagram).
At normal pressures, most chemical compounds and elements possess three different states at different temperatures. In these cases the transition from the solid to the gaseous state requires an intermediate liquid state. However, for some elements or substances at some pressures the material may transition directly from solid to the gaseous state. Note that the pressure referred to here is the vapor pressure of the substance, not the total pressure of the entire system.
The opposite of sublimation is deposition. The formation of frost is an example of meteorological deposition.
Under influences of high pressure and/or temperature one element soars to its higher equivalent. Same happens into our psyche: Passion becomes pure Love! Or, talking with terms of biochemistry, testosterone and dopamine raise, controlled volitionally, produse oxitocine release, harmonising and stabilising physical and mental homeosthases. Furthermore, this process open us for further exploring of our inner realm and follow the path of knowledge!
Otherwise, following the natural drive, dopamine explodes, oxytocin is also being release. But after no more than more or less of half an hour, or even less, dopamine together with oxytocin dramatically drops. This drop triggers prolactine release, followed of adrenalin and cortisol. The chemical and psychological experience of mood depression pushes one to seek more and more ways for hew dopamine release, and like this, over and over, up and down, always having short pleasure and long suffering…
What I am relating here, is the chemical equivalent of the psychological process sublimation (transformation)!
Excuse me for my imperfect English! Be blissful! :)
Orlin

Be Healthy!!!

Re: Oxytocin after orgasm???

paolovenerdi wrote:
Thanks in order to have answered.
I would have a scientific question to make.
There are more study who determine whether plasma oxytocin levels change during human sexual response: "Plasma oxytocin levels increased during sexual arousal in both women and men and were significantly higher during orgasm/ejaculation". But i don't have read some study who determine whether plasma oxytocin levels change after orgasm.
I believe (why I have tried it) that the orgasm (but still more the hot sex) create disarmony, therefore lowering of the levels of ossitocina. But i am curious to find some answer to scientific character.
Thanks of all.
Bye

Hello Paolo,

Unfortunately, I am not the right person to answer your question. Maybe Gary or Marnia could, but they are currently away on a tour, down under:
http://www.reuniting.info/peace_between_the_sheets/author_events .
Maybe you can ask again here after they come back.

Meanwhile, where does your quote come from? ("Plasma oxytocin levels increased during sexual arousal in both women and men and were significantly higher during orgasm/ejaculation")

You can search the following page for "plasma oxytocin":
http://www.reuniting.info/science/research/benefits_of_sex_without_orgasm

Oxytocin after orgasm???

Paolo,

There is much we'd like to share with you about this subject. It is not so easy to do while we are traveling, but here's a short answer.

Oxytocin does many jobs in the body. It is true that oxytocin levels go up in the blood at climax. What is not clear is WHY. Some scientists have suggested that they go up in connection with the muscle contractions related to ejaculation and female climax. See the two abstracts under this link: http://www.reuniting.info/science/research/sexual_hangover#oxytocin (Similarly, oxytocin in responsible for labor contractions at birth, and the contractions associated with milk letdown in nursing mothers.) Apparently the oxytocin levels in the blood then drop off quickly after climax.

It is not clear that this brief increase at climax has anything to do with deeper bonding or better health. If it did, we could all inject oxytocin into our blood anytime and feel more loving. We can't. It doesn't work that way.

What we believe improves health and promotes bonding is oxytocin released in the hypothalamus. We also believe that learning to sustain higher oxytocin levels there (or sprout additional oxytocin receptors) is what really benefits us. We believe this is a function of mutual generosity and making love in a way that does not set off a desire for emotional separation (due to the post-climax hangover).

Feel free to keep asking questions. We'll respond as we can. What do you think about this issue?

Best regards,
Marnia